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48523. Peter Hutchison           Re: A1200 Qs
48524. Peter Hutchison           Re: YAM
48525. Peter Hutchison           Re: Help!!
48526. Peter Hutchison           Re: freebies
48527. Peter Hutchison           Re: Help! I've shot my IDE HD!
48528. Rick Hodger               Re: To BEN: No AF135 For me!
48529. Bert Volders              Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
48530. Bert Volders              Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
48531. Anthony Prime             Re: Hello everyone.
48532. Anthony Prime             Ladeees and Gentlehmen, in the bluew corrrner, th
48533. Sandy Brownlee            Re: BVisions
48534. Paul Thompson             Hi all!
48535. Mark Saint John Ridley&Jessic Re: Being of the gay was bt go home oh and keyboa
48536. Jonathan Day              Re: AF136 Idea
48537. fool                      Re: Posting limits
48538. Simon Hitchen             Re: Ramlib problem.
48539. Simon Mason               Re: Naughty Boy
48540. Oliver Masters            Re: Hi all!
48541. Matthew O'Neill           apology
48542. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Countdown (Was: java 'n' hex)
48543. Matthew O'Neill           Re: network
48544. Matthew O'Neill           Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
48545. Matthew O'Neill           Re: More A1200 Qs
48546. Matthew O'Neill           Re: MP3
48547. Jonathan Day              Re: Price jacking again?
48548. Adam James                Re: AF136 Idea
48549. Matthew O'Neill           Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
48550. Matthew O'Neill           Re: simple prob.... (I hope)
48551. Matthew O'Neill           limit
48552. Matthew O'Neill           Re: Price jacking again?
48553. Alex Furmanski            Re: Amiga Internet Security article in AF soon?
48554. Alex Furmanski            Re: Amiga Internet Security article in AF soon?
48555. Alex Furmanski            Re: HTML question
48556. Alex Furmanski            Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
48557. Neil Bullock              Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
48558. James Potter              Re: apology
48559. Gerrit-kjeld Dusseljee    Re: Will we get the G4s?
48560. Sam Thomas                FoundationDC CD Music
48561. Paul Cundle               Re: MP3
48562. fool                      Re: limit
48563. Brian Gyles               Re: POLL: Should Alan Buxey be shot?
48564. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: HTML question
48565. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: HTML question
48566. Simon Mason               Re: AF136 Idea
48567. Simon Mason               Re: FoundationDC CD Music
48568. Graham                    Shoot the postman
48569. Neil Bothwick             Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
48570. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
48571. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48572. Ben Vost                  Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48573. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48574. Ben Vost                  Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48575. Daniel Thornton           Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48576. Neil Bullock              Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48577. Andy Mills                Arguments...
48578. Andy Mills                Re: limit
48579. Andy Mills                Re:  Fw: More A1200 Qs
48580. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48581. Adam James                Re: AF136 Idea
48582. Adam James                Re: Epson stylus 660
48583. Neil Bothwick             Re: Naughty Boy
48584. Neil Bothwick             Re: Countdown (Was: java 'n' hex)
48585. Neil Bothwick             Re: limit
48586. Bert Volders              Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail
48587. Philip Alan Ellis         The cheques in the post.
48588. Andy Mills                Re: HTML question
48589. Gerrit-kjeld Dusseljee    Re: The cheques in the post.
48590. Andrew Crowe              Re: Amiga spotting
48591. Andrew Crowe              Re: Fury of The Furries Demo.
48592. Andrew Crowe              Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
48593. Andrew Crowe              Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
48594. Andrew Crowe              Re: reassembling...not MFI way
48595. Matthew Garrett           Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48596. Steven                    Fusion
48597. Andy Mills                Bill McEwen video conference...
48598. Alan Anthony              Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
48599. Oliver Masters            Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
48600. Daniel Thornton           Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48601. Tony                      Is the mcc new pc?
48602. Daniel Thornton           Re: AF136 Idea
48603. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: HTML question
48604. Mark Wilson               Re: BPPC SCSI Menu
48605. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: Shoot the postman
48606. Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?=    Re: HTML question
48607. Tyler Saxton              Re: Fusion [latest CGX drivers]
48608. Paul Laycock              Re: BVisions
48609. Kevin Fairhurst           Re: Bill McEwen video conference...
48610. Vaughn Atkinson           Workbench in QNX stylee...
48611. Ben Vost                  Re: Amiga spotting
48612. Ben Vost                  Re: limit
48613. Ben Vost                  Re: AF136 Idea
48614. Ben Vost                  Re: The cheques in the post.
48615. Ben Vost                  Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
48616. [e-mail]    GLQuake
48617. Mad Matt                  GLQuake + PPCemulib
48618. Mark                      Squirrel software
48619. Christopher Ross-Gill     Re: HTML question
48620. Matthew O'Neill           Re: network
48621. Matthew O'Neill           More miggy's (miggies?) and backup
48622. Matthew O'Neill           Re: ami yellow pages
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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 16:52:35 -0000
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Subject: [afb] re:  A1200 Qs
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>I have some questions about it that I would like to ask you more
knowledgeable ppl:
>    Port on LHS of 1200 - PCMCIA?
Correct,works  with memory cards (16 bit unfortunately), a few network cards
(NE1000 compatible)
and some modems.
>    The 22-pin array by the expansion port that looks like it should have
>been 40-pin - Clock port?
 There is a IDE port futher to the left, the few pins nr the expansion slot
is a clock
port.

>   The rev. is 1d4 - what does this mean in terms of those problems that
>Eyetech etc. will fix for U?
Usually timing problems with some expansions.
>    On the 3.0 ROMS, pins 3->9 (from top left) of both chips have been
>wired together.  Why?  Is this supposed to be done?
Not usually, my 1200 didn`t have it wired that way.

>   What can ppl tell me about the Blizzard 1230 card, i.e. max. RAM, what
>type, SCSI or not (there is a 50-pin array in one of the corners...), what
>has been left out with the MC68030RC, does it have an MMU (it has an
FPU)...

I used to have a Blizzard 1230IV, it had a full 030 with MMU and could
except
upto 128Mb of Fast RAM and space for an FPU and SCSI expansion (which was
extra).

>    What is this external floppy drive (see above)?

Allows to to add further floppy drives for DF1, DF2 and DF3 and can be high
density
ones such as the XL Power!

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 11:56:17 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] re: YAM
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>I can not send e-mails via yam or anyother program and i dont know why.
>my details are correct and it works on my brothers Amiga but not on mine. I
am
>pretty annoyed about this and the yam website didnt help either. Does
anyone
>else suffer the same problen or is it just me.

You need 3-4 things set up:
1. Your login details ie username or hostname and correct password (supplied
by /ISP or
yourself)
2. Your email address.
3. The name of the SMTP _and_ POP3 servers eg. mail.<ispname>.com or
whatever.


Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:09:19 -0000
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Subject: [afb] re: Help!!
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>Allright everyone, Ive got a small problem.

>   Ive got a an A1200 +4meg with WB3.0 and
>a small 100 mb HD & 2x CDrom With sqirrel.

 >Ive just bought OS3.5 And want to completely remove
 >all traces of my old Amiga S/w from My HD
 >(including the old OS) and install the New os.
 >(But being a novice I dunno if I can delete everything
 >first B4 I start the Upgrade )

You need a bootable Workbench disk with CD drivers installed
before wiping your hard disk. Also, you need to install WB3.1
before installing 3.5 (both are on the CDROM).

> Also Im want to Tower my Miggy up and
> Attach it to a Monitor increase the memory
> and add an accelerator .. But again the
> choices are bewildering
> (what do you lot recomend)

The Power Towers look very good and plenty of accessories
for it. Accelerators are getting cheaper. Go for an 040/060 or
a PPC card (if they are available). 030s aren`t worth it.

> Im doing this because after spending 1,000's
> on my PC I cannot afford the decent software to
> do what I want/ Could do anyway on my amiga :-(

We do what I do, save up a bit more. I spend a grand on a PC
and still have enough for the essential software I want.

Peter

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:23:41 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: freebies
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>Hello All,

>Well I've downloaded a couple of the games and they show up as .adf
>files with no icon.
>Now then , what do I do to get them onto my hard drive as playable
>games?

These are disk  images, you need a program such as ADF2Disk  or transdisk
and such to write the image back to an Amiga disk. Then copy the files from
the disk to your HD!
The utils are on my web site below

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/uae_faq.html




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From: "Peter Hutchison" <[e-mail]>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 12:30:35 -0000
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Subject: [afb] re: Help! I've shot my IDE HD!
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I think I've broke my IDE HD! I am using an A4000T with a SCSI HD and an
IDE HD. Today I've installed the DirectSCSI version of PFS2 to the RDBs,
I have been using the normal version of PFS2 before, but I was told the
DirectSCSI version is ever so slightly faster. It all went very well,
and all my SCSI partitions are now working just like before, so I went
on installing the thing onto the IDE HD (the PFS2 manual says the
DirectSCSI version works with A4000 IDE as well)

After I've added the filesystem to the RDB, I rebooted, but now my Amiga
seems to be trapped in a loop: it recognizes the IDE HD and crashes,
recognizes the IDE HD andcrashes... etc.


Does anyone here know how I can repair my drive? I know that since I've
very likely destroyed the RDB I will have to reformat the drive, but
currently not even this is possible because my Amiga won't start as long
as the drive is connected... Disabling all partitions in the early
startup menu does not help, the RDB seems to be read nevertheless...

Another weird problem is that since I removed the IDE HD, every access
to hypercom30z.library crashes my system. I had this problem before, but
a ramlib stack patch resolved it. Now it won't work under any
circumstance (NO patches (apart from P96), ramlib stack at 16 kB). This
is extremely odd because I can't see any link between a Harddrive and a
Serial board...

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The pfs2ds filesystem is mainly used for large hard disks, its no faster
than
normal pfs2. Try booting off a floppy disk and run HDtoolbox, or you can
remove
the pfs2 from the SCSI hard disk as well (use the standard version instead).




Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/




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From: Rick Hodger <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 09:30:01 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: To BEN: No AF135 For me!
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I watched as Ben Vost hammered "[afb] Re: To BEN: No AF135 For me!" out on
their keyboard...

> Hi M.,

>> BEN: Maybe I should not ask you and just mail [e-mail]....but
>> here I go anyway.
>> I did not receive my AF135 yet (21-2-2000). Did something went wrong or
>> am I just being impatient?

> You were right first time. I have *no idea* what happened to your issue.

More importantly....it appears to have vanished from every Newsagents in
Belfast...I can't find it anywhere, and I've been looking since last Monday
:/

--
<sb>Rick Hodger - rick . thehub @ bigfoot . com
<sb>Anti Spam Sig - Remove the spaces
<sb>
<sb>Laughter is the closest distance between two people.




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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:55:17 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(
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Hey Neil

On 22-feb-00, you wrote:
=2E.. relying a lot on JavaScript.
> =

> Don't do it! By all means have a sire that sues JavaScript, but not one=

> that relies on it. Do you really want to lock out anyone without JS or
> running with JS disabled?

No I don't. However, using it means I'll have to type a lot less HTML and=
 adding /removing points from the menu is a lot easier. So, yes I use it =
because I am lazy.
> =

 =

> Might be slower with AWeb or is slower with AWeb? JavaScript can be a
> bit CPU heavy at times, but I can't say I've noticed that AWeb is
> especially slow in this regard.

My experience is that AWEBII takes about 45 secs whereas V=B3 takes `only=
' 10 till 15 secs. =


> =

> If you're creating a site that's barely usable on an 040/25, what
> happens to all the 0320 owners?

Well there was missing a comma (,) in the sentence. What I meant was that=
 while using V=B3 I'm not complaining but while using AWEBII I am complai=
ning. And yes, you're convincing me here. I'll have a look at it and migh=
t even decide to incorporate a less demanding navigation as well.
> =

>> And IB2 does not even
>> consider to display it. So you can see that I'm searching for a soluti=
on.
> =

> More potential viewers locked out.

Which, at the moment, were about 3 ;-) , including myself.
> =

>> I know that I'm not suplying a lot of information here. I could lead y=
ou
>> towards my homepage so you can see/feel the problem but as quoted abov=
e,
>> unless you use Voyager on a decent Amiga there is no real use in going=

>> there.
> =

> This *is* an Amiga list. you'd be surprised how many people here have
> Voyager and/or AWeb, and a "decent Amiga".

I know that as I know that I am using only a half-decent one ;-) . What I=
 am just trying to do is to understand what JS-parts tend to slow down th=
e machines a lot so that it can be avoided in future.
> =

> =

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Man invented language to satisfy his deep need to complain.
-- Lily Tomlin




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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:57:05 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(
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Hey Neil

On 22-feb-00, you wrote:

> Neil Bothwick said, =

> =

>> By all means have a sire that sues JavaScript,
> =

> Can you tell that I'd had a late night typing and this was my first mai=
l
> of the morning? :)

No...... :-))

BTW. As long as the displaying of FRAMES is turned on, the page IS viewab=
le and useable since I always try to also include old-fashioned text-link=
s.
> =

> =

> Neil
Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but
the result's the same.
-- Mike Dennison




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From: "Anthony Prime" <[e-mail]>
Date: 21 Feb 2000 19:59:37 +0000
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Hi Ben

> No, I'm not. I've said on numerous occasions that people should shut
> up about it, but it seems that most of the people who post on here
> are selectively deaf (well, selectively can't read).

Pardon?
--
Anthony Prime
>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
[e-mail]


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From: "Anthony Prime" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 18:22:35 +0000
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Subject: [afb] Ladeees and Gentlehmen, in the bluew corrrner, the Sussex stinger, Alan L M Buxey...
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...and in the red corrrrner from the Gutter, Matt "the Masher" O'neill

Well not quite, but as I don't get to read the mail too often these
days I really enjoyed the sudden outbreak of spats. And without any
input from Sealey.

I won't express an opinion on either argument, but would emphasise
that I *really* enjoyed reading the threads.

Sod it. Actually I will.

As I struggle to keep up I rarely post these days as I know I will be
out of date which seems only courteous.

And likewise  if Mash can confirm that he has made similar comments
face to face with a group of around 800 people, most of who haven't
yet spoken to him, rather than with the remoteness of a mailing list
to protect him, I'll back him to do the same here. Otherwise cut it
out.

Oh and welcome back Andy M ;)
--
Anthony Prime
>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
[e-mail]


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From: Sandy Brownlee <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:10:32 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88u7ti$[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: BVisions
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Hello Paul

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:

>> mistake doing so...I rather have a nice fast Amiga that works, than a
>> possibly faster one that is screwed
>
> I wouldn't even think about it either. Me + Soldering iron = Danger!

Normally I'm not scared to do a little DIY electronics, but I literally have
no cash atm,and cannot bear the thought of losing my A1200, or the PPC,
especially with the BVIsion supposedly on the way. They should be appearing
soon, shouldn't they?
 The bloke at White Knight said they'd be out at the end of January, and
then they were delayed a few weeks...

Regards

        Sandy

--
Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland
OS3.5 & PPC Powered!
Email: [e-mail]
Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk
Sent using YAM 2.0
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For sale: Parachute, used once, never opened, small stain.





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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 11:12:57 -0800
From: "Paul Thompson" <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Hi all!
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I know that this isnt exactly on topic and I aplolgize for the
intrusion, but I came across something that is working out really well
for my wife and I. I signed up for that "make money while you surf the
web" deal that is linked to the URL below. Since I do all of my
egroups postings on the web, I am getting paid 50 cents an hour for
chatting here with you all!

That might not seem like much, but it is available in the UK, as well
as the USA, and those who have to pay for their local phone call to
their ISP might appreciate it. :-)

Have a great day!
Ben

Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web!
http://www.alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=gvq153




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From: Mark Saint John Ridley&Jessica Mordsley <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 12:54:14 +0000
In-Reply-To: <005c01bf7b10$70248d00$dba301d5@richardp>
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Subject: [afb] Re: Being of the gay was bt go home oh and keyboards
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Hello James

On 19-Feb-00, James Potter wrote:
> From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
> Subject: [afb] Re: bt go home
>
>
>> Do we have any marmite miners on the list? ;)
>
> Or shirt-lifters or fudge-packers or poofs or faggots or fairies...?
>

Did anyone see Queer as Folk 2 last week?  Stuart's Cyrano-style list of
euphemisms was way cool.

Shit this is now def. OT.  Erm QAF is done by Doctor Who writers and we've
previously established that DW and the Amiga are similarly culty...

Aah!  What about A1200 k/b interfaces...  Does no multiple keypresses
include SHIFT ALT CTRL etc.???

Mark (back ON topic).




> Stop it. My sides are splitting (lie).
>
> For chrissakes Mash, keep your juvenile name-calling to yourself, eh?
>
> TTFN,
> James.
> (Not gay, not that it matters...)
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> AFB: All polls MUST have dates, and if you have something to
> sell use AmiBench! http://www.amibench.org/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- Create a poll/survey for your group!
> -- http://www.egroups.com/vote?listname=afb&m=1
>
>
Regards



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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:18:05 -0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
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Hi Adam

> Why don't you put full commercial games on next months CD , games from
> 1988-1993/4 in DMS files :) better than downloading those crap adf
> files.

Noooooo!  Then you`d spend all your time playing the free classics instead
of spending money on new (or still available to buy) games.

> And put on the CD some old AF floppy's in DMS files from the very first
> AF floppy version up till AF CDs came in. with the Theme "Blast from the
AF past"
> and use one page for the very first AF cover.

Games: no.  Utilities: why bother, they`ll have been updated.  Full
versions of serious Applications: not legal to do it.  AF would have only
been granted permission to distribute them once.

> just a thought :-)

I`m all for a retro games feature. With a demo on the CD if available.  But
only if it is still possible to *purchase* the game.  And as Ben pointed
out when I brought this up before, that could be a problem.  Having said
that, if only 40 people followed up the phase 3 offer, maybe it could work
for one or two games.

Jon



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From: "fool" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:59:19 -0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: Posting limits
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Hi Alan,

> > Have you never received a "Your posting has been sent to the moderator
for
> > approval" email!?  And don't say "no" coz I won't believe you; no one
could
> > post as much as you do and not have had one or two.
>
> I've had *2* such emails.

So I was spot on, as usual.  Since you admit you've received 2 of those
mails, the question is, how come you didn't work out from those mails (and
the discussion of similar mails on this list...although I  guess you're
excused on that one since you don't read every mail that's posted on here)
that the posting limit applies to everyone?

Aside from the above, if it were true that the posting limit doesn't apply
to everyone (and on the assumption that you believed that to be the case),
why do you feel you have the right to deprive those it does apply to from
posting?

Martin, not indulging in judicious snipping...unlike some.
--
http://www.amine.co.uk  ICQ: 61700031



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From: "Simon Hitchen" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:23:39 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88tp2m$[e-mail]>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: Ramlib problem.
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Hello Mikey C,

> Last night I was mucking about with my Amiga.

Last week I was installing OS3.5

> To cut a long story short, now it refuses to boot up. (unless it's from
> floppy)

So did mine

> ( I can't get it to boot without startup sequence) I keep getting the
> message ramlib failed to execute (or sometjing like that) and then the
> option to suspend ot reboot.

Oooo... Same here...

> Any ideas as to how one goes from here.

Maybe....

My "ramlib failed" problem was happening everytime the IPrefs command
was executed in the startup sequence.

It was fixed by putting IDEfix back into my startup sequence.

Also, by default the ramlib has only a 2k stack IIRC?  It may be
crashing 'cos it's using up all the stack. Have you tried one of the
"ramlib stack fix" programs? ( ksc_GrowStack.lha  maybe? )


--

Simon

MailTo:[e-mail]          [e-mail]
http://www.gadge.u-net.com                      ICQ: 22707489

A1200T-060/50-48+4+2MB-CD-HDx2-V90-SVGA-SCSI-ZII-CGX/3D-OS3.5
( Health Warning!! - This Amiga Is Genetically Modified(tm) )


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From: Simon Mason <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:27:15 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88u934$[e-mail]>
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Hello Toffypops

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:.
>
> Hope this explains a few things about MP3 for you...
>
>
> sincerely
>
>
> Toffypops

Sure did,thanks for taking the time out to explain so clearly (you should be
doing articles for AF!)

Anyway,my post that got "clobbered" was refering to why was it that when I
try to download an MP3 I get an error message saying "cannot log in as
anonymous"
(the site that is) - any thoughts?

Cheers all,
        Simon



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From: "Oliver Masters" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:45:41 -0000
In-Reply-To: <88un3p$[e-mail]>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Thompson>
>
> I know that this isnt exactly on topic and I aplolgize for the
> intrusion,

And the fact that this has been mentioned here 300 times before?

> That might not seem like much, but it is available in the UK, as well
> as the USA, and those who have to pay for their local phone call to
> their ISP might appreciate it. :-)

It's even better if you aren't paying for your call (like me) because then
it's money for nothing.


> Join AllAdvantage.com and get paid to surf the Web!
[snip URL]

Have you read their anti-spam policy? Posting your referrer ID to a mailing
list with 800 readers breaks it. Therefore if anyone here reports you to
AllAdvantage you will no longer be earning money to surf the web.

Have a nice day :)

Oll



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:45:42 +0100
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Hi

Ok, I whole geartedly apologise, I never meant to offend anyone by any
comments that I've ever made, Its just the way which me and my friends (yes
some of them are...) talk to each other. And we dont secretly stick one
finger up at each other when they turn their back as someone suggested. Nor
am I blind to the fact that people do get hurt by stuff that people say.
But nothing I say or I'm sure anyone on this list says is ever meant to be
hurtful to someone else.

Sorry again

Mash
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Beatles of Borg:  Assimilate and Let Die!







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:48:11 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 21-Feb-00, Sandy Brownlee wrote:

>>
>> Whats the point of the other half of the clock in Countdown???

> So I'm not alone in wondering this...

> Maybe they use it to get the pointer back up again.

This weeks lie: They were originally meant to get a full minute, but the
mice behind the clock which run to make it turn, didn't have the energy to
get the hand back to the top, the budjet didn't allow for rats which
would've been up to the job

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Clinton Sandwich:   $5 worth of Baloney + $20 tax.







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:51:18 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 21-Feb-00, Sandy Brownlee wrote:

>> What you need is a 10/100 *AUTOSENSING* and *INDEPENDANT* hub, that'll
>> support Different rates on different ports.
>>
>> An Intel (Spit spit) or 3com one should do the job...

> Genius ones are pretty good too.

> My old boss used to swaer by Genius merchandise.

Hold ya horses. the hub (or switch, dunno which yet) is already bought, and
it will be running at 100mbit

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"I see that I've brushed my teeth with 'Preparation H'." -Opus







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:16:16 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(
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Hi Bert

> *The questions*
> Is it normal for these browsers to take a long time for executing JS?
> What functions are known to slow it down?

Well it really does depend on what you're doing with it. Preloading some gfx
for rollover images is almost instant on my 030, so it basic functions such
as checking what versions of a browser someone is using, then loading a
page depending on what the results were

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"Our sales would plummet!"    "F*ck your sales!"







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:18:13 +0100
In-Reply-To: <005f01bf7cb7$2a35ede0$b6f831d4@innit>
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
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On 21-Feb-00, Alex Furmanski wrote:

> And why does it have to do that?  Because the TV isn't capable of syncing
> to the frequency necessary to actually produce a true 512 pixels (I hope,
> or I'm gonna look silly)

Sorta true, it really depends how you look at it...

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

Sex: Pleasure/Fleeting; Cost/Exorbitant; Position/Ridicul







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:21:01 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 21-Feb-00, Paul Cundle wrote:

> I've never really understood this streaming lark. Don't you need an
> extremely fast connection to be able to download it as fast as you can
> play it? The same would apply to webcams, IME.

The faster the connection, the better the quality. A low quality mp3 could
be downloaded in 5 minutes say, but lets say the mp3 lasts 10 minutes, by
streaming you can listen as you download rather than having to wait 5
minutes, then start listening

Mash -
--
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash

"Vogons!" snapped Ford. "We're under attack!"







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From: "Jonathan Day" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:45:02 -0000
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Subject: [afb] Re: Price jacking again?
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Hi Sean

>>> SF I noticed in the February issue 133 of AF that on page 9 under the
>>> heading SF New Zorro Expansions,the price of the X-Surf. SF
>>> SF It states that in Germany the X-Surf sells for 189DM Ca.57-60
>>> depending on SF daily Exchange rate.
>>> SF Yet Eyetech are going to sell it for 79.95.
>
>> I think that you'll find that the price from EyeTech includes VAT which
>> isn't added to the price quoted from Germany. Also the German price
won't
>> include shipping charges, and although they will be a little lower for
Eye
>> Tech, they have to be absorbed somewhere. Oh, and the staff at Eye Tech
>> who do all the buying and selling do like to eat occasionally......

> I agree with the last bit about earning a living! But the German price
does
> include VAT(in Germany 16%) and the postage to England is about 5.Which
is a
> grand total of 62-65 so 15 profit per card is for bread & butter,thats
a hell off a
> lot of buttered bread?.  8-)

I think there`s a fair chance the postage may cost more than that once you
take insurance into consideration too.  There are other possible
considerations too: Eyetech may be buying in smaller quantities,
instruction translation costs, greater expenses to see if it was worth
selling, differences in the costs of advertising....

Jon




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From: Adam James <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 17:34:39 +0000
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Hello Tudor

On 22-Feb-00 at 14:58:19, you wrote about [afb] Re: AF136 Idea =


> On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 02:31:53PM +0000, Adam James wrote:
> =

>> Why don't you put full commercial games on next months CD , games
>> from 1988-1993/4 in DMS files :) better than downloading those crap
>> adf files.
> =

> 1. Cos fewtch/AF don't have the money to pay the authors/publishers to
> do it.
> 2. IT'S ILLEGAL - PIRACY DON'T YOU KNOW- DUH!

ooops never looked at it in that way :(

> =

>> And put on the CD some old AF floppy's in DMS files from the very
>> first AF floppy version up till AF CDs came in. with the Theme "Blast
>> from the AF past" and use one page for the very first AF cover.
> =

> That is quite a good idea - apart from the fact that I have them all I
> think. Oh and also, any full commercial software (see para. above)
> would be a problem.
> =


just thought it would be a good idea but i was wrong :(

[Old Man Speaking] I remember the good old days in School/College when
AF was the main topic of the day apart from the crap lessons, We used to
help each other on Monkey Island and we had Amiga 500s in the science
labs for science purposes but lemmings was the main reason i loved
science, Amigas was the most popular computer in school [Old Man Ended] =


we must keep the spirit of the amiga alive like it once was!

AF how about rereleasing some of the old AF mags without the floppies? is=
sues 1-20 =


-- =

Adam James

(PGP key avail)








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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:28:43 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 21-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> Ben would be well and truly scr^H^H^Htroubled by this, I'm sure

What on earth is ^H^H^H ? I've seen several similar things on your mails
before

Mash -
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C:\CLINTON\TRUTH.COM not found: <A>bort <R>etry <I>mpeach







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:33:18 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 21-Feb-00, james wrote:

> I've been trying to use a pc format hard disk on my Amiga

They do harddrives now? Doesn't it fall off the front of the magazine? ;)

Mash -
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Plant a tree...bury Algore!







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:27:53 +0100
In-Reply-To: <038601bf7c89$a28bd4e0$[e-mail]>
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On 21-Feb-00, fool wrote:

> Have you never received a "Your posting has been sent to the moderator for
> approval" email!? And don't say "no" coz I won't believe you; no one could
> post as much as you do and not have had one or two.

I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've *NEVER*
had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

Mash -
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"Lawrence Welk in China" - by Anna Wong, Anna Tieu







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:30:41 +0100
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 21-Feb-00, Sean FT wrote:

> 62-65 so 15 profit per card is for bread & butter,thats a hell off a
> lot of buttered
> bread?. 8-)

Actually 15 is quite a reasonable amount of profit to make, however I'm
pretty sure they get them for much less than you said

Mash -
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He's dead, Jim.  Uhm... Are you as hungry as I am?  - Bones







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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:31:27 -0000
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Hi Neil

> > The one thing that worries me most is Napster/Amster.  How secure is
it
> > really?  Downloading directly from some other chap's (or even
chapess') HD
> > must be a bit dodgy.
>
> Isn't that what you do every time you use FTP or the web? You don't know
> whether the server is part of an ISP or an individual's machine.

Er, yeah I suppose so.  But at least with FTP you need a username and
password to upload/download.  Hmm, but then again once you're connected I
suppose the server can do stuff to your 'puter?

Lovely job
--
Alex Furmanski - [e-mail]
http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
Also, *another* new site coming soon (!)
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This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in
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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:34:28 -0000
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Hi Alan

> > The one thing that worries me most is Napster/Amster.  How secure is
it
> > really?  Downloading directly from some other chap's (or even
chapess') HD
> > must be a bit dodgy.
>
> any Net client that is used for dubious purposes just screams out
> security danger!

Have you ever seen Back Orrifice 2K ;-)

Lovely job
--
Alex Furmanski - [e-mail]
http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
Also, *another* new site coming soon (!)
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This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in
Finland has booked a holiday in the Algarve for the first fortnight in
July.



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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:33:53 -0000
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Hi Jani

> > Indeed. If you did want spacing you could always put a discreet
> > mini-frame that loads a blank page in. Now what really annoys me is
> > the way Netscape wants to put a gap between the cells in your tables
> > whether you want them or not. Grrr.
>
> Umm, I thought this could be fixed on NN (and any other browser for that
> matter) by adding CELLSPACING="0" into the TABLE tag. Of course, it
> only works fully if you turn borders off (which is the default setting
> anyway).

Alas I've tried that, and Netscape still insists on leaving a tiny gap
between celss :-(  I've come to work around this though by using nested
tables, which is a solution but not the ideal one (as is most often the
case).

Lovely job
--
Alex Furmanski - [e-mail]
http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
Also, *another* new site coming soon (!)
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This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in
Finland has booked a holiday in the Algarve for the first fortnight in
July.



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From: "Alex Furmanski" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:39:22 -0000
X-Mailing-List: [e-mail]
Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: I'm just passed by a snail :-(
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Hi Neil

> > By all means have a sire that sues JavaScript,
>
> Can you tell that I'd had a late night typing and this was my first mail
> of the morning? :)

Well, I wasn't going to be the first to say anything :-)   You didn't
circumcise the world in a hundred foot clipper, perchance?

Lovely job
--
Alex Furmanski - [e-mail]
http://www.furmanskinet.connectfree.co.uk
http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
Also, *another* new site coming soon (!)
ICQ: 51206302

This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in
Finland has booked a holiday in the Algarve for the first fortnight in
July.



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From: "Neil Bullock" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:04:57 -0000
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> > Ben would be well and truly scr^H^H^Htroubled by this, I'm sure
> What on earth is ^H^H^H ? I've seen several similar things on your mails
> before

If you look on the Keyshow thingy in Workbench, you'll find that ^H is
written on the backspace key. That's what it means :)

(sorry, best I could explain it)

--
Neil Bullock
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ICQ: 27873010                   IRC: frodo.afternet.org/#trogsoft
--




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From: "James Potter" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:16:29 -0000
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Subject: [afb] apology


> Hi
>
> Ok, I whole geartedly apologise, I never meant to offend anyone by any
> comments that I've ever made,
[snip]

Fair enough. As far as I'm concerned, this subject should now be terminated.

> But nothing I say or I'm sure anyone on this list says is ever meant to be
> hurtful to someone else.

I think this is probably true, ultimately.

Just remember the 4th (or is it 5th?) rule of e-mail everyone - re-read
before you send and think carefully!

And wash your hands! :)

TTFN,
James.



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:51:21 +0100
From: Gerrit-kjeld Dusseljee <[e-mail]>
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Toffypops wrote:
>
> > It was a joke by DCE. They glued a Blizzard PPC to an A500
> accelerator and
> > put it on display - it was in our January issue, the Kln show report.
> ehehe
> wonder how many people that are now trying to adapt a PPC to their
> stony A500'reds...:D

Or how many people wait for a G3/G4 for their stony A1200/4000's ....:D

>
> Toff..

--
I never buy Warp*S software!!      // "All that glitters is cold" -
Marilyn Manson


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From: Sam Thomas <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:29:05 +0100
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Nowthen,

Has anyone else on this list got FoundationDC?
I am having problems getting the CD Audio to work. I have set it up (In
foundation prefs) to use:

atapi.device unit=2

If i click on the test button the cd music starts playing so every thing
seems alright. If I then run the game and look at the
Load/Save/Restart/Quit Menu it says that it is using the CD for game data
not for CD-Audio

Kind regards



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From: "Paul Cundle" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:07:47 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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The name's Buxey, Alan L.M. Buxey, licence to email.

> you dont need that fast a connection to stream mp3 or webcam stuff

Using a 56k modem with initial connect speeds of around 48000kbps, it
still takes several seconds to download each frame making most webcams
pretty useless. mp3s are the same, and considering how slow anything
but an 060 or PPC is at this kinda stuff, it doesn't really work at
all.

> alan

Paul C, with a capital R
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From: "fool" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:26:33 -0000
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Hi Matt,

> > Have you never received a "Your posting has been sent to the moderator
for
> > approval" email!? And don't say "no" coz I won't believe you; no one
could
> > post as much as you do and not have had one or two.
>
> I'm one of the biggest posters,

Biggest something anyway...

> I've been here for months and I've *NEVER*
> had such a message actually.

That's because the limit is only reached after your bedtime.  If the limit
is reached on any given day, it's always reached late in the evening rather
than during the day for the simple reason that the limit applies to the 24
hours that starts with 8AM GMT.

> Put your foot in it again have we?

Yeah right, Mash, as long as you're happy in your own little world where
arguments are won by not replying to any of your opponents points or indeed
by not replying at all.

For your benefit, I'll just point out that I said "no one could post as much
as you do and not have had one or two" to Alan, not you.  You may post more
or less than Alan, but unless it's exactly the same amount as he posts, it
is not "as much as" -  that statement doesn't even apply to you so don't be
quite so quick to take offence next time, you irritating moron ;p

Martin.
--
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:41:10 -0800
From: "Brian Gyles" <[e-mail]>
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Na shoting not his sort of thing I belive hockey sticks (indoor) are
more apporate..

(god its scary what you can find out about people on the net)...



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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:26:27 +0300
In-Reply-To: <88u9if$[e-mail]>
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On 22-Feb-00 Toffypops wrote:

> The correct tag to use is FRAMEBORDER=0 this removes all visible
> frames in stated frame... works with all browsers exept older versions
> of Ibrowse and current versions of AWEB....those force frames to be
> visible with small borders anyway,..
>
> Toffy

Since you arent quoting anything, I dont know which part of the thread
you are replying to... but the problem is, even if you do
FRAMEBORDER="0", the gap between the frames is STILL there! The actual
border is just invisible. The question was how to get rid of the empty
space, and FRAMESPACING="0" was the working solution.

- Jani
--
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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 18:23:25 +0300
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On 22-Feb-00 Andy Mills wrote:

> If you're trying to line up some images using tables and want them
> `butted' up against each other, some browsers will still leave a gap,
> even when CELLPADDING & CELLSPACING are set to "0". The
> only way around it, is to set the TD width and height to that of the
> image.

Actually, this might not be the fault of the table layout. Many browsers
generate a bank area around a picture, and if you dont restrict the
size of a table cell (with HEIGHT and WIDTH) it gets stretched to
accomodate the blank area. Try putting VSPACE="0" and HSPACE="0" to the
IMG tag, this could help.

Note, this is just a theory. :)

- Jani
--
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From: Simon Mason <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:43:15 +0000
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Hello Adam

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:
>
> [Old Man Speaking] I remember the good old days in School/College when
> AF was the main topic of the day apart from the crap lessons, We used to
> help each other on Monkey Island and we had Amiga 500s in the science
> labs for science purposes but lemmings was the main reason i loved
> science, Amigas was the most popular computer in school [Old Man Ended]

[ Very Old Man Speaketh] Wow, that brings back memories, only in my case in
Science it was "today we are going to construct something called a
computer" which was a ZX80 when they first came out. Imagine our
anticipation and drooling mouths when we switched it on. Jinkies! I can
make it write my name as a list down the screen! AAHHH the good old days.

>
> we must keep the spirit of the amiga alive like it once was!

Here,here.
>
> AF how about rereleasing some of the old AF mags without the floppies?
> issues 1-20
>
Cheers,
        Simon



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From: Simon Mason <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:48:18 +0000
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Hello Sam

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Nowthen,
>
> Has anyone else on this list got FoundationDC?
> I am having problems getting the CD Audio to work. I have set it up (In
> foundation prefs) to use:
>
> atapi.device unit=2
>
> If i click on the test button the cd music starts playing so every thing
> seems alright. If I then run the game and look at the
> Load/Save/Restart/Quit Menu it says that it is using the CD for game data
> not for CD-Audio
>
> Kind regards

I have exactly the same problem (and I cant get the bugger to open in a
workbench window either). In the end I simply bung it in the cd drive and
use my cd audio player(the one on IDE fix).

Cheers,
        Simon



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From: Graham <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:51:45 +0000
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Subject: [afb] Shoot the postman
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Aaaargh!! this bloody thing has stopped working again!! egroups has me li=
sted as
"permanently bouncing" AGAIN & I'm not recieving any mail from them but I=
 am
recieving mail from other people, can anyone anyone out there please tell=
 me
whats going wrong/how to fix it, please. If you can help would you reply
directly to my address.
Cheers
Graham





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Date: 22 Feb 2000 19:26:29 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Bert Volders said,

> Hey Neil

>> Don't do it! By all means have a site that uses JavaScript, but not one
>> that relies on it. Do you really want to lock out anyone without JS or
>> running with JS disabled?

> No I don't. However, using it means I'll have to type a lot less HTML and
> adding /removing points from the menu is a lot easier. So, yes I use it
> because I am lazy.

Using JS to build the page on the fly each time is incredibly
inefficient. Why not use an HTML creator with macros so you save the
time but still generate static HTML?

>> Might be slower with AWeb or is slower with AWeb? JavaScript can be a
>> bit CPU heavy at times, but I can't say I've noticed that AWeb is
>> especially slow in this regard.

> My experience is that AWEBII takes about 45 secs whereas V takes `only' 10
> till 15 secs.

Are they both doing the same, or is V saving time by not executing all
of the JS?

>>> I know that I'm not suplying a lot of information here. I could lead you
>>> towards my homepage so you can see/feel the problem but as quoted above,
>>> unless you use Voyager on a decent Amiga there is no real use in going
>>> there.

>> This *is* an Amiga list. you'd be surprised how many people here have
>> Voyager and/or AWeb, and a "decent Amiga".

> I know that as I know that I am using only a half-decent one ;-) . What I am
> just trying to do is to understand what JS-parts tend to slow down the
> machines a lot so that it can be avoided in future.

How can anyone advise on that when they don't know what JavaScript
you're using? There are plenty of people here with an Amiga that you
consider suitable to view the pages, but they can't help if you don't
let them see what you're doing.


Neil
--
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
--
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:04:34 +0000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 19:28:43 +0100, Matthew O'Neill ([e-mail]) wrote:
> On 21-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:
>
> > Ben would be well and truly scr^H^H^Htroubled by this, I'm sure
>
> What on earth is ^H^H^H ? I've seen several similar things on your mails
> before

^H stands for CTRL-H which is the code for the 'Delete' key.  Therefore,
people who know this can use the ^H as a substitute in email, for humourous
effect.

BTW an old version of Pine under unix on the uni system at York only
inserted the ^H into the email as far as the user could see.  So some
poople at uni who didn't know this would press delete again to get rid of
the rogue ^H characters, which inserted another ^H!   Much hilarity ensued
.. honest!  ;-)

Kev

--
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:10:39 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88u9st$[e-mail]>
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 07:27:25 -0800, Toffypops ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Anyone here hungry?..

Yeah,  I had to drive all the way to St Albans today (from Wigan) and back,
of course.  Not had chance to have anything substansial to eat yet  :(

Kev

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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:13:07 +0000
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Hi Kevin,

> Yeah, I had to drive all the way to St Albans today (from Wigan) and back,
> of course. Not had chance to have anything substansial to eat yet :(

Humph. I'm still at work after having had a flapjack all day. And a salad.

All the best,
--
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
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try this: http://www.theonion.com




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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:17:23 +0000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:13:07 +0000, Ben Vost (ben=2Evost@futurenet=2Eco=2Eu=
k) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo!

> > Yeah, I had to drive all the way to St Albans today (from Wigan) and ba=
ck,
> > of course=2E Not had chance to have anything substansial to eat yet :(
>=20
> Humph=2E I'm still at work after having had a flapjack all day=2E And a s=
alad=2E

Still??  You haven't even replied to that personal mail about my "troubles"
yesterday=2E

All I've had is a chicken buttie, and this in a posh hotel so it was two
slices of bread and as little chicken as possible, for about =A35=2E

Thank god I didn't pay for it!

Kev, off to raid the biscuit barrel =2E=2E=2E

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:19:39 +0000
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Hi Kevin,

>> Humph. I'm still at work after having had a flapjack all day. And a
>> salad.

> Still?? You haven't even replied to that personal mail about my "troubles"
> yesterday.

I *told* you to take the pills you were prescribed and lie down. Those
troublesome thoughts about donkeys should go away shortly...

All the best,
--
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From: "Daniel Thornton" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:31:51 +0000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:13:07 +0000, [e-mail] wibbled...

> Humph. I'm still at work after having had a flapjack all day. And a salad.

Maybe you should go home for your tea then? There's no need to work
until midnight ;)

I know this is horrendously off-topic, but can I recommend Crosse &
Blackwell Snackpots. Like Pot Noodles, but they taste like food.
Proper spaghetti bolgnese, potato with brocolli and croutons. My
lunchtimes are built around them. Except when we've got kebabs and
that in the freezer, of course :)

--
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   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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From: "Neil Bullock" <[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:35:26 -0000
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> I *told* you to take the pills you were prescribed and lie down. Those
> troublesome thoughts about donkeys should go away shortly...

You do read afb-ot, don't you? Come on, admit it :) Are you really still at
work because you're patching up the roof after after... er... something
plummeted through it? :)

--
Neil Bullock
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:34:40 +0000
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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Hi all,

Sorry if I've annoyed anyone here (except for you know who) with regards
to the argument about gays and offensive comments.

I have already told Mash what I think of him in private email, and have
also put him in my kill-file.

--
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 20:57:45 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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Hello Matthew O'Neill, on 22-Feb-00 18:27:53 you said about:
  [afb] limit

>On 21-Feb-00, fool wrote:

>> Have you never received a "Your posting has been sent to the moderator for
>> approval" email!? And don't say "no" coz I won't believe you; no one could
>> post as much as you do and not have had one or two.

>I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've *NEVER*
>had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

No, fool hasn't put his foot in it. Go to the Egroups help section and
"RTFM".

BTW, I wouldn't have said you were one of the biggest /posters/...

--
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:33:43 +0000
In-Reply-To: <026e01bf7d71$1cfbbe60$39fa31d4@innit>
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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On the 22-Feb-00 19:48:03, Alex Furmanski said about:
 [afb-ot] Re: Fw: [afb] More A1200 Qs

>Hi Andrew

>> Just had a look in the afb folder here. I love this guy Mash.
>> He really brightens my day.

>Me too.  I feel almost perverse; actually *wanting* to read what he has to
>say, hoping he's posted loads.

Unfortunately, it's twats like Mash that bring out the worst in me....

--
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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:37:39 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:19:39 +0000, Ben Vost ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo!

> >> Humph. I'm still at work after having had a flapjack all day. And a
> >> salad.
>
> > Still?? You haven't even replied to that personal mail about my "troubles"
> > yesterday.
>
> I *told* you to take the pills you were prescribed and lie down. Those
> troublesome thoughts about donkeys should go away shortly...

Oh yeah, there's that email ...   ;)

Kev

--
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From: Adam James <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:50:33 +0000
In-Reply-To: <00c401bf7d69$a2d0e360$5e839fd4@no1>
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Hello Jonathan

On 22-Feb-00 at 19:18:05, you wrote about [afb] Re: AF136 Idea =


> Hi Adam
> =

>> Why don't you put full commercial games on next months CD , games
>> from 1988-1993/4 in DMS files :) better than downloading those crap
>> adf files.
> =

> Noooooo! Then you'd spend all your time playing the free classics
> instead of spending money on new (or still available to buy) games.

i have always bought new games for the amiga even turbo racer 3d :( but
a lot of old games are excellent (Robocop , Bubble-bobble , chaseHQ)
which should be sold again but AFAIK no shops around here or advertised
in AF sells old 1988-94"s amiga games.

IMO a lot of old games are more playable than some of the new games
what's out =

 =

>> And put on the CD some old AF floppy's in DMS files from the very
>> first AF floppy version up till AF CDs came in. with the Theme "Blast
>> from the
> AF past"
>> and use one page for the very first AF cover.
> =

> Games: no. Utilities: why bother, they'll have been updated. Full
> versions of serious Applications: not legal to do it. AF would have
> only been granted permission to distribute them once.
> =

>> just a thought :-)

as i said before i did not look at the legal side of things but most
amiga users may want to see the history of AF but i doubt it.


> I'm all for a retro games feature. With a demo on the CD if available.
> But only if it is still possible to *purchase* the game.

most old games are hard to get hold off and as for the adf files on the
net they are hacked versions or have viruses in them which i do not like =
to use. =


FINAL IDEA : AF why don't you do a theme called "AF Past Present Future"
which includes Pictures , reviews , etc etc =


-- =

Adam James

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From: Adam James <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:53:50 +0000
In-Reply-To: <88u796$[e-mail]>
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Subject: [afb] Re: Epson stylus 660
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Hello Toffypops

On 22-Feb-00 at 14:42:46, you wrote about [afb] Re: Epson stylus 660

>
>> Does anyone know why my Epson printer prints text in red when i print
>> from Multiview, amigaguide, PPGuide ? but in every other program i
>> use the text/pictures are perfect, I am using the Turboprint driver
>> Epson stylus 640
>>
>> PS: I strongly recommend people who use a Epson Printer to get
>> Turboprint it's a excellent piece of software :-)
>
> Check both in TP and WB's printer manager that you have not set
> DEFAULT TEXT
> to color(RGBC) or something...or that your black cartrige is not
> empty...
>
> But since you get these problems with Multiview, try to select
> EpsonXOLD or another standard driver if you wanna print just
> text...might work..
>
> set text to black in the printer prefs.....or set it to black/white...
> don't remember right now whitch...

already sorted it out but thanks for the feedback :-)

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Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:25:56 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Simon Mason said,

> Anyway,my post that got "clobbered" was refering to why was it that when I
> try to download an MP3 I get an error message saying "cannot log in as
> anonymous"

It means you need a login name and password to access the site.


Neil
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:27:23 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Matthew O'Neill said,

>>> Whats the point of the other half of the clock in Countdown???

> This weeks lie: They were originally meant to get a full minute, but the
> mice behind the clock which run to make it turn, didn't have the energy to
> get the hand back to the top, the budjet didn't allow for rats which
> would've been up to the job

Why didn't they use ferrets? :)


Neil
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Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:2:33 +0000
From: "Neil Bothwick" <[e-mail]>
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Matthew O'Neill said,

> I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've *NEVER*
> had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

The limit is usually reached quite late in the day, probably past your
bedtime :)


Neil
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From: Bert Volders <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:17:41 +0100
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Hey Neil

On 22-feb-00, you wrote:

> =

> Using JS to build the page on the fly each time is incredibly
> inefficient. Why not use an HTML creator with macros so you save the
> time but still generate static HTML?

That is a possibility. But being curious of what can be done I decided to=
 give it a try. However, the code has now be changed a bit so that even w=
ith JS disabled the page still comes out reasonable though missing roll-o=
ver buttons.
> =

> Are they both doing the same, or is V saving time by not executing all
> of the JS?

I asume they do the same thing since the JS code for both is the same. Un=
less AWEB and V have a different way of doing the job I'll say they do th=
e same.
> =

> =

> How can anyone advise on that when they don't know what JavaScript
> you're using? There are plenty of people here with an Amiga that you
> consider suitable to view the pages, but they can't help if you don't
> let them see what you're doing.

Well, to be honnest I did not want to `plug' the d**n thing since content=
 is not finished and a lot of tuning still has to be done (like spell-che=
cking and correcting some of the images and little mistakes in the lay-ou=
t). But for those who are curious here it is:

http://www.volders.demon.nl/cleaned-up/index.html

with the most offending parts being at:

http://www.volders.demon.nl/cleaned-up/htm/menu_left.html

and at:

http://www.volders.demon.nl/cleaned-up/htm/thisweeks/favmen.html

Note: I did spot an error today which has been corrected but, sadly, did =
not improve speed.
Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

[e-mail]
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will
pick himself up and carry on...
-- Winston Churchill




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Date: 22 Feb 00 23:15:36 +0000
From: "Philip Alan Ellis" <[e-mail]>
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I've just received a letter from that nice man Mr Vost telling me my
subscription to his magazine is running out, so I've put a cheque in the post to
him.

Keep up the good work Ben ;-)

All the best,
Phil
------------------------------------------------------
Phil Ellis Amiga 4000/040 PIV Magellan II ICQ 38892967
------------------------------------------------------



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Date: 22 Feb 2000 22:46:9 +0000
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Hello Jani Mkitalo, on 22-Feb-00 15:23:25 you said about:
  [afb] Re: HTML question

[snip]

>Actually, this might not be the fault of the table layout. Many browsers
>generate a bank area around a picture, and if you dont restrict the
>size of a table cell (with HEIGHT and WIDTH) it gets stretched to
>accomodate the blank area. Try putting VSPACE="0" and HSPACE="0" to the
>IMG tag, this could help.

Doesn't, I've already tried it... ;-/

I think you'll find that VSPACE and HSPACE only applies to text around
the image, it's never made any difference in a table for me.

>Note, this is just a theory. :)

:)

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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:34:55 +0100
From: Gerrit-kjeld Dusseljee <[e-mail]>
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Philip Alan Ellis wrote:
>
> I've just received a letter from that nice man Mr Vost telling me my
> subscription to his magazine is running out, so I've put a cheque in the post to
> him.

I wonder what kind of magazine that is and how many subscribers there
are ;)

>
> Keep up the good work Ben ;-)

Yes (what ever you do ;))

>
> All the best,
> Phil
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Phil Ellis Amiga 4000/040 PIV Magellan II ICQ 38892967
> ------------------------------------------------------

--
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"All that glitters is cold" - Marilyn Manson


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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:02:28 +0000
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Hi Everybody,

> Digitiser amused me recently too.  They got a letter
> complaining about the lack of "indie" talent in the
> computer/console market, and Fat Sow was complaining
> that no-one makes original games (because of the cost)
> or 2D platform games (probably because no-one makes
> decent planar chips any more).

   Ah, a few years back they'd be saying theirs too many /2d/ platform ga=
mes. It's just the same old problem but with different type of games (hun=
dreds of boring Doom-clones insted of hundreds of boring mario-clones)

   And any way, you don't need decent panaler chips nowerdays 'cos PC's a=
re so fast then can do any kind of 2d stuff in real time (take ZSnes for =
instance, it can do anything a SNES can do at the same speed, and you can=
't call a snes' 2d processor bad ;)  =


> Funny, I don't remember them being too sad about the
> death of the Amiga, whose strong points have always
> been originality, 2D games and, moreover, a nice and
> healthy PD market.

   Well, if you ask me it'd be the same if, say, PC's had died instead. T=
hey'd be whining about the Amiga market being un-original and lacking wha=
tever. Anyway, there is a PC pd market (somewhere), it's just over shadow=
ed by a huge, un-stopable commercial market.

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
"Bother," said Pooh, as his gas-plasma screen exploded in his face



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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:53:19 +0000
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Hi Everybody,

>> Fury of the Furries, an all time classic platform game for the Amiga,
>> is now available to download (DMS) from the Amiga Rediscovery site as
>> the actual Demo Disk.
> =

> and if anyone wants the REAL thing, I can sell you this game for 4 ukp

   Ah gimmie 15 minutes and I could probably find it on an Amiga emulatio=
n site :)

>> It is still, IMHO one of the finest Platform games ever.
> =

> see..its worth it! :-)

   Yeah, shame that level on the vilage world didn't work. I had to hex-e=
dit the save to get past it ;)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
"Bother," said Pooh, as the gamma rays disintegrated his cellular structu=
re.



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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:03:59 +0000
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Hi Everybody,

> I am looking to get a PCMCIA network card to add my A1200 into my home =
LAN
> (in anticipation of cable modems).

> My questions are; What does the CC_Reset fix do? Is it essential? What =
will
> happen if I don't bother with it?

   I think that just to fix a bug with the 1D4 and 2B motherboards.

> and finally; Does anyone know where I can
> lay my hands on a list of suitable network cards (preferably with UTP
> connection rather than BNC) that have been proven to work properly on a=
n
> A1200 (with or without the fix).

   I think I'll keep an eye on this, I have 2 PC's networked together, an=
d if I could link my A1200 to it as well... :)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
If you belive, they put a man on the moon, /man on the moon/.
If you belive, there's nothing out there to see, and nothing is good.
-- REM



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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:12:30 +0000
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>
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Hi Everybody,

>> Ben would be well and truly scr^H^H^Htroubled by this, I'm sure
> =

> What on earth is ^H^H^H ? I've seen several similar things on your mail=
s
> before

   Aparently when replying online, some browsers take backspace as ^H, so=
 you type something, then go to delete it, it comes up as ^H when it's se=
nt.

   Of cource, I think it's just an excuse to swear! Take this example for=
 instance:

   Oh f^H^H^Hdarn it.   =


Did /I/ swear? nope. Do /you/ infer swear words in your head? yep.   ;)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
Ancient Romans ate flamingo tounges. They were considered a delicacy.
--The Miscellanea Digest



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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 21:55:55 +0000
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Hi Everybody,

>>> Easy Dis-assemble vista, convert it to ppc code with the proggy from
>>> aminet i have forgeten the name of and then re-assemble it.
>>> =

>>> - Basicly, its never going to use the ppc,...
> =

> If the steps are that easy..i think it *could* be made to use the PPC
> ;-)

   I'd think it would be more difficult then that, I mean, what about the=
 data mixed in with the instructions? a simple dis-assemble would convert=
 it all into machine code, and if you converted it into a different machi=
ne code then it would break it. (unless there are advanced de-assms aroun=
d?)

   Of cource, if they released the source code, it'd probably be a lot ea=
sier :)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
"Bother," said Pooh, as he mistook the urine sample for cola.



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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:58:44 +0000
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <[e-mail]>; from Ben Vost on Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 10:13:07PM +0000
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 10:13:07PM +0000, Ben Vost wrote:

> Humph. I'm still at work after having had a flapjack all day. And a salad.

Doesn't Future have a sandwich person? (As immortalised in AP's
"Ergh! That's not egg!", obv)

--
Matthew Garrett | [e-mail]


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From: "Steven" <[e-mail]>
Date: 22 Feb 2000 23:19:14 +0000
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Hi all,

Am I the only person to be having loads of trouble with Fusion.
Specifically, I cannot get it to use CGX drivers, since they don't
seem to work under CGX4, and the patches on www.vgr.com cant be used,
since they need Fusion V3.1 drivers to be patched, and the lowest I
found was V3.2 and 3.3. The CGX4 driver (well supposed driver) on the
AFCD doen't like CGXv4 at all. So I'm a biut stuffed.

That, and Fusion doesn't seem to like my SS Hardfiles (since when I
installed it I couldn't afford to set up a partition for the Mac), so
assuming I ever got Fusion to run, I'd still be a bit stuffed.

Oh well.. never mind eh... At least SS works for me =8*)

Cya,
Steven.




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Date: 23 Feb 2000 0:7:20 +0000
From:  "Andy Mills" <[e-mail]>
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Hi all,

The South West Amiga Group has been `approved' to take part in the
interactive video conference with Bill McEwen on March the 1st.

The problems are:

1) We are suddenly in need of another venue for this, which we are
   looking into (possibly in Bristol).

2) The conference starts at 8pm CST - 2am GMT...:(

3) We have to find a way to pay for 3 128k ISDN lines for an hour (ouch)

Bearing in mind No. 3 above, we may have to charge ~5UKP entry, although
part of the costs may be paid for us.

So, assuming that it's financially viable, we can find somewhere that
will host us at 2am (and people don't mind staying up that late), etc.,
would anyone be interested in attending?

Basically, I don't want to be phoning around and arranging a venue,
etc., if it's not going to be worth it, so I'm after a bit of
feedback...

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From: "Alan Anthony" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:14:08 -0000
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Hi Oliver,

>My questions are; What does the CC_Reset fix do? Is it essential? What will
>happen if I don't bother with it?


I bought one of the Power PCMCIA kits a few weeks ago. The cc reset fix is
just a small board (supplied by Power) with 3 wires coming of it which need
to be soldered to one of the Amiga chips. It's a bit fiddly, but I managed
it.
If you don't do the fix it should still work but after each reboot you will
need to unplug the card and then plug it back in. If you forget the system
doesn't see the network.

Regards,


Alan Anthony
Brown Goods Purchasing Controller.
Bennetts Retail Ltd.
East Anglia's Largest Electrical Retailer.




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From: "Oliver Masters" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:42:00 -0000
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Alan Anthony told me:
> I bought one of the Power PCMCIA kits a few weeks ago. The cc reset fix is
> just a small board (supplied by Power) with 3 wires coming of it
> which need
> to be soldered to one of the Amiga chips. It's a bit fiddly, but I managed
> it.
> If you don't do the fix it should still work but after each
> reboot you will
> need to unplug the card and then plug it back in. If you forget the system
> doesn't see the network.

Thanks Alan, that was exactly what I needed to know. I didn't want to go out
and buy a network card without the fix only to find that there was some
really annoying problem (like having to take it out every reset) I guess
this means I will have to stop being a cheapskate and get the fix too :(

See ya later,

Oll



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From: "Daniel Thornton" <[e-mail]>
Date: 23 Feb 2000 00:47:38 +0000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 23:58:44 +0000, [e-mail] wibbled...

> Doesn't Future have a sandwich person? (As immortalised in AP's
> "Ergh! That's not egg!", obv)

If he's there long enough, perhaps he will have the chance to sample
Cam's Breakfast Sandwich, the recipe for which I have long lost. Along
with the Michael Caine special.
--
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    New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page...
   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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From: "Tony" <[e-mail]>
Date: 6 Feb 96 21:42:12 +0000
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Hi all,
    A friend went into the Gateway store in Birmingham last friday and
saw a picture of a new pc being released that was apparently a dead
ringer of the MCC.He is an ex-user but even he was p****d off.
Anyone else seen it?


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From: "Daniel Thornton" <[e-mail]>
Date: 23 Feb 2000 00:51:33 +0000
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:50:33 +0000, [e-mail] wibbled...

> FINAL IDEA : AF why don't you do a theme called "AF Past Present Future"
> which includes Pictures , reviews , etc etc

Mumble issue 134 mumble page nine mumble been running for a long time
mumble.

--
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    New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page...
   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:51:00 +0300
In-Reply-To: <026a01bf7d71$187720a0$39fa31d4@innit>
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On 22-Feb-00 Alex Furmanski wrote:

> Alas I've tried that, and Netscape still insists on leaving a tiny gap
> between celss :-( I've come to work around this though by using nested
> tables, which is a solution but not the ideal one (as is most often
> the case).

Ouch, thats bad news... Ive built pages that depend on cells having NO
space between them... I can only imagine what they look like through
NN. :(

While on the subjcet of HTML... does any Amiga browser have CSS support
in planning? ATM I have to test everything CSS-related on my bros PC.
Which is not so fun as he lives on the other side of the town.

- Jani
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 01:07:03 +0000
From: Mark Wilson <[e-mail]>
In-Reply-To: <88tn3s$[e-mail]>
References: <[e-mail]>
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At 02:06 AM 2/22/00 -0800, you wrote ;

>I would go fo it, except for the fact that I have my order placed so
>deeply at WhiteKnight that it would take them just as long to cancel it!

Well. thats fair enough!

>PS. I do visit you site weekly, so you don't need to plug it to me! ;)


Hehehe, Well you never know.

On an unrelated note, my 3000 stopped working today. So I`m having to use a
PC :(
Damn Eudora Pro p*sses me off :(, I still havent got it to do filtering yet...



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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:35:01 +0300
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On 23-Feb-00 Graham wrote:

> working again!! egroups has me listed as "permanently
> bouncing" AGAIN & I'm not recieving any mail from them but I
> am recieving mail from other people, can anyone anyone out there
> please tell me whats going wrong/how to fix it, please. If you can
> help would you reply directly to my address.
> Cheers
> Graham

Id be interested in knowing what causes this, too. I have to log onto
eGroups once per two weeks on the average to reset my bouncing status.
:(

BTW sorry about the HTML stuff in the quote, but eGroups had decided to
switch to converting my mail into HTML after I reset my bounce status.

- Jani
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



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From: Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:29:28 +0300
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On 23-Feb-00 Andy Mills wrote:

> Doesn't, I've already tried it... ;-/

Ahh well, it was worth mentioning, just to know the correct answer if
nothing else.

> I think you'll find that VSPACE and HSPACE only applies to text around
> the image, it's never made any difference in a table for me.

Well, it applies to frames too (at least on Ibrowse and V) - it took me
a while to realise this. I had a picture 50 pixels high and a frame of
an equal size - and the browsers wanted to scroll them around.

> >Note, this is just a theory. :)
>
> :)

...because I have no Netscape Negotiator around for testing - and my
brother insists on using IE only. :(

- Jani
--
"The capacity of technology to modify the definition of humanity"



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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:01:59 +1100 (EST)
From: Tyler Saxton <[e-mail]>
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On 22 Feb 2000, Steven wrote:

> Am I the only person to be having loads of trouble with Fusion.
> Specifically, I cannot get it to use CGX drivers, since they don't
> seem to work under CGX4, and the patches on www.vgr.com cant be used,
> since they need Fusion V3.1 drivers to be patched, and the lowest I
> found was V3.2 and 3.3. The CGX4 driver (well supposed driver) on the
> AFCD doen't like CGXv4 at all. So I'm a biut stuffed.
>

http://www.ctaz.com/~jlfenton

is the homepage of one of the main authors of fusion.  He has the latest
CGX drivers there, at the bottom of this page:

http://www.ctaz.com/~jlfenton/Fusion-68K.html

Personally, I'd have thought a better place for them would be the
company's website, which doesn't even have a link to the above home page.
Oh well...

Tyler.

-----
Tyler Saxton             Programmer -- Academic Support
Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering
University of Melbourne, Australia.



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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 00:44:22 -0800
From: "Paul Laycock" <[e-mail]>
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Hi Sandy,

> >> mistake doing so...I rather have a nice fast Amiga that works,
than a
> >> possibly faster one that is screwed

> > I wouldn't even think about it either. Me + Soldering iron = Danger!

> Normally I'm not scared to do a little DIY electronics, but I
literally have
> no cash atm,and cannot bear the thought of losing my A1200

>  The bloke at White Knight said they'd be out at the end of January,
and
> then they were delayed a few weeks...

Tell me about it! I ordered from White Knight aswell. The guy there has
been pretty patient with regard to my constant mails! ;)

Paul Laycock



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From: "Kevin Fairhurst" <[e-mail]>
Date: 23 Feb 2000 08:52:34 +0000
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On 23 Feb 2000 0:7:20 +0000, Andy Mills ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Hi all,

Hello!

> So, assuming that it's financially viable, we can find somewhere that
> will host us at 2am (and people don't mind staying up that late), etc.,
> would anyone be interested in attending?

I'm interested but it's too far away .... I don't suppose you'll move it to
Birmingham will you?  ;)

Kev

--
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM



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From: Vaughn Atkinson <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 22:48:22 +0100
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Hi All

I've just finished doing a QNX-style config for workbench, using Visualpr=
efs and
Birdie. It took a while, but its starting to look pretty good (IMHO).

Am I the only one, or do other people think the simplicity of look of the=
 QNX =

GUI is a breath of fresh air?

Is it worth me sending the package in as a reader submission, or does eve=
ryone prefer a more complex, bells and whistles kinda desktop?

Opinions, please (as if I have to ask!)

Vaughn





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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:52:01 +0000
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Hi Andrew,

>   And any way, you don't need decent panaler chips nowerdays 'cos PC's
> are so fast then can do any kind of 2d stuff in real time (take ZSnes for
> instance, it can do anything a SNES can do at the same speed, and you
> can't call a snes' 2d processor bad ;)

You don't need special chips, but you do need the skill (and the software)
to be able to create sprites and other 2D game graphics... that's what's
missing these days.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bad Science: Misaligned beams




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:52:48 +0000
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Hi Neil,

> Matthew O'Neill said,

>> I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've
>> *NEVER* had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

> The limit is usually reached quite late in the day, probably past your
> bedtime :)

The daily limit goes from 8AM GMT - 8AM GMT.

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Good Science: Increasing the size of everything in Britain by 250% to
aid the sight impaired




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:54:41 +0000
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Hi Adam,

> as i said before i did not look at the legal side of things but most
> amiga users may want to see the history of AF but i doubt it.

> FINAL IDEA : AF why don't you do a theme called "AF Past Present Future"
> which includes Pictures , reviews , etc etc

We already do our "100 issues ago" boxout in news every issue - not many
mags can do that...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Stop metricationists! They are demanding their 454 grammes of flesh,
and if we give them 2.54 centimetres they'll take 1.609 kilometres!




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:57:14 +0000
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Hi Philip,

> I've just received a letter from that nice man Mr Vost telling me my
> subscription to his magazine is running out, so I've put a cheque in the
> post to him.

Oh yeah. Next you'll be telling me that you love me. I haven't got a cheque
from you at all! Did you make sure you made it out to the initials of my
organisation: "Commodore Amiga Self-Help"? :)

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"My stereo's half-fixed", said Tom monotonously.




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From: "Ben Vost" <[e-mail]>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 09:58:50 +0000
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Hi Matthew,

>> Humph. I'm still at work after having had a flapjack all day. And a
>> salad.

> Doesn't Future have a sandwich person? (As immortalised in AP's
> "Ergh! That's not egg!", obv)

Yes, but the only thing I fancied off his tray was the flapjack. The salad
came from M&S...

All the best,
--
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: ([phone]
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: ([phone]
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"You and Patricia deserve each other", said Tom meretriciously.




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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:02:58 -0800
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Is now available from

http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/GLQuakeWOS.gz

baby.



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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 03:35:34 -0800
From: "Mad Matt" <[e-mail]>
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[e-mail] wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48616
> Is now available from
>
> http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/GLQuakeWOS.gz
>
> baby.
>

Dont forget to download the latest ppcemulib while you on franks
homepage

Version 0.7d

Matt
----



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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:37:58 +0000 (GMT)
From: Mark <[e-mail]>
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Hi all,

Could some kind soul out there e-mail me a copy of the software that comes
with the Squirrel SCSI interface (the plain one, not the Surf) because
I'm at college and my disk is at home. I just bought the CD32 version of
Cannon Fodder and need to install the CD32 software that came with the
Squirrel to be able to play it.


Cheers,

Mark_H



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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:36:49 +0000
From: Christopher Ross-Gill <[e-mail]>
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Andy Mills wrote:
>
> If you're trying to line up some images using tables and want them
> `butted' up against each other, some browsers will still leave a gap,
> even when CELLPADDING & CELLSPACING are set to "0". The only way
> around it, is to set the TD width and height to that of the image.

I usually get no gap in Netscape, or any other browser for that matter,
when I set a table up like so:

<TABLE WIDTH="whatever" CELLSPACING="0" BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0">

When you remove the border attribute the gap returns.  In fact, I always
have border set to 0 because of the ugly nature of built in browser
borders.  The width or height attributes of the TD and TR tags don't
make much difference (although that may depend on what you want to
achieve).

- Chris

PS. I don't think "whatever" was in the HTML Specification :-)



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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:51:39 +0100
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On 22-Feb-00, Alan L.M. Buxey wrote:

> there are 100mbit capable cards for Amiga.

...and!?? thats what I'm trying to find out. dont hold back on me!

> yes...but it depends on how cheap you define cheapo ;-)

The cheapest no frills one which fits the pcmcia socket and goes at 100mbit

Mash -
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:15:40 +0100
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Hi

I seem to notice the strangest things when I'm pissed. Chicargo's club/pub
in luton, monday night. 25 screens all displaying the chunky hand with a
blue floppy disk. ahhh, 'tis a sight to behold =) A600 with scala by the
way...

Oh, and backup everyone!, now! just downloaded my mail and the last message
trashed my config file (size went from 15k to 3 megs!!???) and ate my
indices :/ smart me had a backup :D

Mash
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Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

"In order to form a more perfect union, sweetheart." - 007 (D.A.F.)







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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:23:30 +0100
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On 22-Feb-00, Mikey C wrote:

>> amiga site, so maybe he is to blame. search engines dont give any
>> results
>> either

> Not on search engines?

Absolutley nothing. Yahoo, no. Lycos, no. Altavista about 150 matches
down....

> think I'll treat this post with the conptempt
> it deserves.

Grabs dictionary........ Oi! I'm trying to hep the site and all you can do
is have a go at me, naff off!

Mash -
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Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

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